tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7934722593145519386.post2034407479979041185..comments2023-05-03T01:40:40.011-06:00Comments on City Grace: What are legitimate marks of the Church?Joel Hamernickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01400640434055859385noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7934722593145519386.post-32979258591935079032009-12-14T03:56:30.480-06:002009-12-14T03:56:30.480-06:00Good day !.
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The Church is the congregation of saints,in which the Gospel is rightly taught and the Sacraments are administered."<BR/>Augsburg Confession Article VII. <BR/><BR/>I hope everyone called by God is a member of a congregation that rightly teaches and administers. But why can so many called not break down these barriers to unity? Why can these sub groups; Reformed or Lutheran, white or black not get together. One case is because of objective differences in theology, the other is because of 400 years of bad history. <BR/><BR/>I have a copy of a very short sermon written by Gerhard Forde; a Lutheran theologian who used to teach at Luther Sem here in the twin cities. He was trying to explain why there was disunity in the church. "The basis of the unity and openness of the church is given in the fact that this man Jesus, sent from God, eats with tax collectors and sinners. The table is open. All are one before him. .... Why then the disunity of the church? The reason is quite simply the same: the fact that Jesus eats with tax collectors and sinners."<BR/><BR/>The stain of old Adam is deep and sin is not a trifle. We must confront him everyday and repent.<BR/><BR/>We must stay faithful to the confessions God has called us to. Christ is our foundation, and confessions help us to understand that foundation. But they should not be a barrier to understanding and repenting of the sins of our history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7934722593145519386.post-24830016797559885162008-11-24T23:05:00.000-06:002008-11-24T23:05:00.000-06:00Hmm. It seemed like you two were talking past eac...Hmm. It seemed like you two were talking past each other, not really understanding each other's point of view, then he viewed what you said to him about being a typical white evangelical as an insult and he got angry and said stuff about the PCA I don't really understand. I've never strongly affiliated myself with any one denomination so I have a hard time relating to denomonational pride.<BR/><BR/>I can see strengths and weaknesses in what each of you said, and how you said it as well.JudyBrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04319484965281283580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7934722593145519386.post-74827020579987132372008-11-24T18:14:00.000-06:002008-11-24T18:14:00.000-06:00Wow! Pains me to see this brother reacting in this...Wow! Pains me to see this brother reacting in this way. I think it is unfortunate how the "reformed" brothers which I am in doctrine but not in affiliation, react in this way. <BR/><BR/>I was part of a similar conversation where the Westminister and the Reformed tradition were elevated to such a point that any other discussion outside of that or contrary to it's history was scoffed at. <BR/><BR/>Almost as to say...<BR/><BR/>hey this is how it is and how it has always been for 500 years so deal with it. If you question any of it then you are not reformed and you need to renounce your reformed doctrines. :)<BR/><BR/>I think you get what I am saying. It does bring me great joy to see some reformed churches beginning to take racial reconciliation seriously and realizing its biblical validity. But it is a 500 year old huge ship that has been driven by one captain for a long time, so it is going to take time. <BR/><BR/>Take heart Joel and know that your passions for these above mentioned things are biblical and God cares about them deeply. <BR/><BR/>Peace!Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17385643675848871900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7934722593145519386.post-69803186893488655072008-11-23T13:26:00.000-06:002008-11-23T13:26:00.000-06:00It's interesting how much conflict this conversati...It's interesting how much conflict this conversation riled up in my head over my own conviction on the matter of racial borders, specifically in that gray area that the church should be playing. I don't know if I subscribe to any one denomination, but i understand the roles that the church as a body is to uphold. I do feel however that there are very apparent lines that exist in the area of the ethnic churches and the middle American church (the white church). I believe strongly in what Ephesians 2 calls the "new humanity" to do when dealing with those lines. Reconcile all people to God. That was Jesus' intent, no? Jesus was challenging the Jew on those ethnic lines that existed then, didn't He? If it was true then why is it not true now? <BR/>But, I am conflicted. Is it the role of the church specifically to expose the ethnic lines amongst our fellow believers? Is that as big a deal as exposing the ethnic and racial lines in other areas of our culture? (IE subsidized housing and gentrification)b_wongkamalasaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16110304227106442037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7934722593145519386.post-75847123923592978912008-11-22T21:46:00.000-06:002008-11-22T21:46:00.000-06:00direct quote of the conversation which happened on...direct quote of the conversation which happened on email.Joel Hamernickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01400640434055859385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7934722593145519386.post-50099046356519389342008-11-22T21:02:00.000-06:002008-11-22T21:02:00.000-06:00Was this an actual conversation that you had? Or ...Was this an actual conversation that you had? Or based on different conversations with similar themes/responses?Dave Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05976774493829749018noreply@blogger.com